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#1 User is offline   mallek1989 

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Posted Aug 24, 2010 - 12:02 PM

So I was wondering if PVP was gonna be available in FFXIV, since I feel that was one of the reasons that people switched from FFXI to WoW. If PVP is available, then in what way will it be used? Will it be like WoW where you just walk up to someone and challenge them, or will it be an arena thing like in FFXI?
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Posted Aug 24, 2010 - 12:33 PM

I believe this was already discussed.....somewhere in the forums. But anyways , there will be a certain level of PvP . From what I've read it will be more or less like arena fights inside the city. Weather or not they will have world wide PvP is unknown , but i doubt it ; it seems a little out of character for SE in my opinion .

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Posted Aug 24, 2010 - 12:41 PM

In other interviews it was discussed that PvP will not be available at launch.

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Posted Aug 24, 2010 - 2:10 PM

I just hope it'll be easier to get into the new arenas.
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Posted Aug 24, 2010 - 5:21 PM

It may be in an arena, quite possibly located in Ul'dah:

Visitors from every corner of Eorzea come to Ul'dah to partake of the city's famed recreation, most notably the fighting arenas and gambling halls.
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Posted Aug 24, 2010 - 8:07 PM

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Posted Aug 24, 2010 - 10:28 PM

I personally hope this is not very pvp orientated. Too many game have come out recently that are all pvp and it has been hard to get away from it entirely.

I want to be able to roam free without pvp enforced areas.
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Posted Aug 25, 2010 - 9:04 AM

View PostSaeryne, on Aug 24, 2010 - 10:28 PM, said:

I personally hope this is not very pvp orientated. Too many game have come out recently that are all pvp and it has been hard to get away from it entirely.

I want to be able to roam free without pvp enforced areas.


I agree, but I still would like to see a little more PvP than FFXI.
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Posted Aug 25, 2010 - 2:56 PM

If they implement PVP this is what I would like.


1. 100% player consent. No zone or area that will automatically turn on your PVP option. Give players the option to turn it off and on, in any zone if they wish minus major cities. If there is a zone for PVP make it an instance. With no requirement, reason, or benefit for a PVE player to have to join. Don’t put PVE quests in that zone, or make a PVE character have to travel thru it. Completely optional, just PVP.

2. DO NOT EVER balance PVE skill/abilities around PVP players comments, post, logic, rant, overpoweredness, or crying / nerd rage. If adjustments need to be made for PVP abilities, then make all the changes you want, but leave the PVE aspect the same. Basically once you turn on your PVP option, all your stats/skill/abilities us the PVP numbers/adjustments.

3. Rewards - This could be tricky, should PVP have rewards? I do not care if they do or don’t. But if I was a big PVP’er and was good at it, then I would enjoy some form of a reward system. The key again is that no matter what the reward is, weapons , armor, new skills, or better version of current abilities , it can’t be used in PVE. PVP rewards stay as PVP only items. You can’t use them in anyway for PVE. When you turn off your PVP option all PVP rewards are unequipped and go in your bag. That way there is no reason for a PVE only player to want those items.


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Posted Aug 26, 2010 - 1:28 AM

I agree with you on balancing classes for PVP as it screws up the balance between player vs mob.

I came to FF to also get away from the amout of pvp orientated games that have come out. I dont want it forced on me or made to be exposed to it. If I wanted pvp I would play Aion.
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Posted Sep 1, 2010 - 4:05 PM

View PostMantisPR, on Aug 25, 2010 - 2:56 PM, said:

If they implement PVP this is what I would like.




3. Rewards - This could be tricky, should PVP have rewards? I do not care if they do or don’t. But if I was a big PVP’er and was good at it, then I would enjoy some form of a reward system. The key again is that no matter what the reward is, weapons , armor, new skills, or better version of current abilities , it can’t be used in PVE. PVP rewards stay as PVP only items. You can’t use them in anyway for PVE. When you turn off your PVP option all PVP rewards are unequipped and go in your bag. That way there is no reason for a PVE only player to want those items.


IMO


While I agree with most of your thoughts, even the idea that the items are not usable outside of PVP. I must disagree that you can not show them off outside of PVP. If you're a PVE player and you see those items and desire to have them then so be it. People will weigh out the need of obtaining items from PVP and actually having to jump through the hoops to get it. Also, I believe it would be better to bring people to PVP. What would the benefit be for doing PVP if there were no reward at all? Aside from the satisfaction of fighting other players. This is the reason that FFXI PVP was mostly failure. Except for Ballista which helped with region control.

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Posted Sep 2, 2010 - 7:50 AM

To make people happy who want PvP they should add an in depth PvP card game where you have to get the cards from fighting monsters and such. Could be really good. Then people could still "go against" other players without hurting a players experience by being killed when they didn't want to fight another player to begin with.
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Posted Sep 2, 2010 - 8:07 AM

View Postmallek1989, on Aug 25, 2010 - 9:04 AM, said:

I agree, but I still would like to see a little more PvP than FFXI.


I doubt that'll happen, it's probably going to be similar to FFXI, I don't know how difficult it was to get in but considering ease of access is XIV's motto I wouldn't think access is going to be a problem.

I like the card dueling idea too, integrate Tetra Master into the game itself would be both awesome and get an edge on Eq/Eq2's card game.
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Posted Sep 2, 2010 - 1:07 PM

I don't understand why anyone is bringing up getting attacked randomly. It never happened in FFXI so there's no reason to believe it will now. Hell I'd be happy if they just brought back ballista.

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Posted Sep 14, 2010 - 3:03 AM

Man..I was really hoping for a solid pvp system but it's obviously not going to happen. And wow @ some of your comments, well built pvp (pvp where you can get your enemies items or lose all of your own) makes the game so much more fun. Even the 'boring' parts like traveling and grinding become exciting due to the fact that you never know what's going to happen.

Well darn...I was all excited for this one too =(

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